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CH. 4: DAVE HARTMAN, MENTOR

Dear Reader:

I am happy to report that Dave Hartman has been feeling much better, even with a bounce in his step, according to his wife Joanie.
She attributes it to these stories, and I am truly humbled. Not only does he enjoy reliving our adventures, she says, but he is most delighted to share them with his daughters, who are fascinated to learn about their father’s mechanical ingenuity and how appreciated he has been by his colleagues and friends.

I am overjoyed that in my attempt to simply honor my best friend of forty-eight years, it has restored Dave’s spirit for life and passion for tinkering. It has been cathartic for me as well. I have learned many wonderful things from Dave over the years, and now he’s taught me something new, something profound: the importance of sharing memories with an old friend; it’s heartwarming for everyone.

I deeply appreciate your coming along for the ride as well, dear reader. (How do you like riding in a Model A?) Here’s the next chapter about my mentor, Dave Hartman…

By Joe Rinaudo

Dave Hartman

CHAPTER 1  CHAPTER 2  CHAPTER 3

Chapter 4

So here I am standing in front of the guy who I have been looking to find for several years (and I can only hope who might be willing to help me with my Fotoplayer restoration). It also amazed me that he was the same person that Wes Cooper has been telling me about for the last several years!

After Wes just walked away and left me standing there, I said something like: “Hi Dave, remember me? I’m the guy who showed the silent movie at your Photoplayer demonstration for Mr. Nethercutt at Carty Piano several years ago.” When I told him that I had purchased an American Fotoplayer, Dave said: “So, you bought an F.F.?” When I inquired what he meant by an F.F. Dave said: “a F….ing Fotoplayer! Why on earth would you want one of those contraptions?” I told him that I collected silent movies and wanted something to play along with them that would give the authentic sound. Since I grew up with a player piano, an American Fotoplayer is a natural fit as it plays standard 88 note piano rolls. I went on to say that when I heard the J.P. Seeburg Photoplayer he had restored, it was a life changing experience for me. Dave said: “You sure are a cheap date!” (Apparently, I was just blessed with one of Dave’s nuggets of wit.)

Fotoplayer prior to restoration
1974 Polaroid of Joe’s new (48 years old, actually) Style 20 Fotoplayer, unrestored, in Mr. Barns’ garage, Orange County, California, on the day Joe purchased it. This is the main player and piano unit with all the keys, pedals, buttons, levers, pull cords and (eventually) rubber bulb for the taxi horn.
Fotoplayer prior to restoration
A 21-year-old Joe Rinaudo and his new toy. This is the side chest which houses most of the instruments and sound effects. Photo by friend Don Telford.

I told Dave that I had purchased the Fotoplayer in unrestored condition and I was having some problems in making it play properly. He asked what my current problem was. I told him that the valve chest that runs the pipe organ was firing two notes off at the same time, making two pipes speak when only one note is played on the piano. Dave just smiled and said (the magic words) “why don’t you bring the valve chest by my shop some time and let me take a look at it.” I couldn’t believe what I was hearing and asked where he lived. I found out he was only 11 miles from my house — a short distance considering the help and knowledge I might gain from this meeting!

Dave introduced me to his wife, Jennifer, and his new born daughter, Cordie. I remember seeing Jennifer (as she was leaving) in the parking lot at Carty Piano driving a Model A Ford. I had stopped her to look at the car, as I also have a Model A. I had no idea that this was Dave’s wife and that Dave was also a Model A enthusiast!

Dave asked me where I had found my Fotoplayer. I told him that I had purchased it from a man (originally from Canada) by the name of Charlie Barns who now lived in Orange County California. As the story goes, an old theater in Saskatchewan, Canada was being demolished and this Fotoplayer was found sealed up under the stage in very nice original condition. Nobody knew what it was. So, it was put into storage. When an article appeared in a local Canadian newspaper about this “King Tut” find, relatives (in Canada) of Charlie Barns sent him the article. Charlie (who liked old automatic pianos) went up there and bought it. When his wife saw the size of it and how much restoration it required, she said “not in my house” and rather firmly “suggested” that he sell it!

After hearing this story, Dave explained that some of my problems may be due to the fact that the Fotoplayer was brought down from a wet climate where it has lived since the 1920’s in Canada to a dry California one, which can cause the shrinking of wooden parts and cracks to form. This will have to be checked out, he said.

I found out much later that my Fotoplayer was made in 1926. This was the last year of manufacture of Fotoplayers. It was made in the Robert Morton Pipe Organ factory in Van Nuys, California, which was a subsidiary of The American Photoplayer company. It was shipped up to Saskatchewan, Canada and only used for about four years. When sound came to the movies in 1929, instead of removing it, the stage was extended over the Fotoplayer to accommodate the new bigger screen with speakers. This explains the nice original condition of my machine.

Also, as mentioned in a previous chapter, there are two ways that I have been spelling the word “Photoplayer.” When speaking of Photoplayers in general or generic terms the correct spelling is Photoplayer. Such was the case when describing the Nethercutt Photoplayer which was made by the J.P. Seeburg Piano Company. When speaking of a  Photoplayer made by the American Photoplayer Company, it is spelled Fotoplayer as this is the trademark for that company.

Well, the big day came. I drove the Fotoplayer valve chest over to Dave’s shop. What he discovered, and my reaction to this, would set me on an interesting and complicated path of total restoration!

To be continued…

Do You Have
EXPERTISE in NON-PROFITS?

Joe Rinaudo, founder of Silent Cinema Society, is currently forming a non-profit which he calls SCAT —Silent Cinema Art and Technology — to fund the restoration and preservation of the actual machines and media of the silent era.

Advice and suggestions in the area of non-profits are most welcome. Contact Joe Rinaudo here.

Through Silent Cinema Society, which is comprised of you, the fans and supporters of silent cinema, Joe will continue to enlighten and entertain with The Newsreel newsletter; this Silent Cinema Society website; and hopefully soon, live shows where audiences are once again able to wear big hats that block the screen. SCAT, the non-profit, will also support Silent Cinema Society so that information and entertainment will continue to be presented to you, silent cinema fans. Lady, will you please take off that big hat!

CH. 3: DAVE HARTMAN, MENTOR

By Joe Rinaudo

Continued: The story of my best friend and mentor, Dave Hartman (who has been ill), which brings to mind all of the wonderful things that I have learned from him over our forty-eight year friendship…Dave Hartman

CHAPTER 1  CHAPTER 2

Chapter 3

Now the year is 1974 and I have purchased a style 20 American Fotoplayer. So, at 21 years of age, one of my worst fears had come true: that a Fotoplayer is no player piano when it comes to rebuilding. Since I have dabbled in rebuilding a player piano, I had now come to the sobering realization that I am not up to the task to tackle the complete rebuild of a Fotoplayer. These contraptions are very complex items indeed. So (in desperation) I contacted Mr. Dick Carty at Carty Piano to see if he could help in the rebuild. Dick gave me the cost to rebuild the player stack (the complex mechanism that plays the piano from the piano roll) and the two wind motors (one for the upper spool box and one for the lower). As I recall, this was more money than I could afford. So, Dick says “Give me some money and an old radio. I love old wooden radios!” I had a very nice wooden radio from the 1930’s that belonged to my grandfather. So, the deal was set! Yes, Dick Carty was a great business man and cared about the up and coming young “broke” collector!

A 21-year-old Joe Rinaudo and his new toy. Photo by his friend Don Telford, circa 1973.

When I asked where was the big guy “Dave” (who had restored the Nethercutt Photoplayer years earlier), Dick said that Dave’s superior skills were required by Carty Piano for the restoration of the more complex orchestrions in the Nethercutt Museum collection. Dick went on to say that when the Nethercutt Museum contract was over Dave had left for greener pastures.  

By the way, some of you may have noticed the two ways that I have been spelling the word “Photoplayer.” When speaking of Photoplayers in general or generic terms the correct spelling is Photoplayer. Such was the case when describing the Nethercutt Photoplayer which was made by the J.P. Seeburg Piano Company. When speaking of a  Photoplayer made by the American Photoplayer Company, it is spelled Fotoplayer as this is the trademark for that Company only (American Photoplayer Company). I hope that this is now clear as mud!

Now the year is 1975. I am struggling on to try and restore the Fotoplayer on my own. Reading books and gleaning tidbits of information from various collectors proved to be a daunting and insurmountable task!

At this time I was going to junior college and working part time for minimum wage at a hospital in the food service department. To make ends meet I had been driving my first car that I got for $525.00 when I was in high school. A 1929 Ford Model A Coupe. It was as cheap to run as a Volkswagen and very easy to work on. A life-long friend of my father, Mr. Wes Cooper (who was a living legend in the hot rod circles), had built some of the fastest four-cylinder engines using modern day technology but with authentic period parts. He held the land speed record in the flat head four-cylinder class. He and my dad had been friends since first grade and both worked together at the Winfield Carburetor factory in the 1930s.  It was my good fortune in more than one way (as I would soon find out) that he was helping and teaching me on how to maintain an original Model A engine. Or as he called it “That old turd!”  He completely rebuilt my original Model A engine for $100.00!

All of the times that I was at his shop he would ask how the Fotoplayer was coming. When I would tell him of my latest Mount Everest “Fotoplayer” climb, he would say “I have to introduce you to this guy who used to bring his Model A over. He can help you with your problems as he understands how these things work.” I would always dismiss this as idle chatter and thought nothing of it.

In July of 1975 I was at the Long Beach Model T swap meet. As I was searching for that elusive Model A part for my car, who should I come across but Wes Cooper!  He had a stand there selling his souped-up engines and related parts. Without saying a word, he grabbed my hand and led me over to a large tent where a lady was nursing a 9 month-old baby girl. Wes pointed to a man seated next to the lady and said “There! This is the guy I have telling you about. You know, the guy who can help you with your Fotoplayer!” When I got a good look at the man, I realized that the guy that Wes had been telling me about for years was the big guy from Carty Piano — DAVE!

To be continued…

— ANNOUNCEMENT —

Joe Rinaudo, founder of Silent Cinema Society, is currently forming a non-profit which he calls SCAT —Silent Cinema Art and Technology — to fund the restoration and preservation of the actual machines and media of the silent era.

Advice and suggestions in the area of non-profits are most welcome. Contact Joe Rinaudo here.

Through Silent Cinema Society, which is comprised of you, the fans and supporters of silent cinema, Joe will continue to enlighten and entertain with The Newsreel newsletter;  this Silent Cinema Society website; and hopefully soon, live shows where audiences are once again able to wear big hats that block the screen.

ENCORE REPLAY: CORONAVIRUS QUARANTINE CONCERT

In case you missed the live stream, hit the replay button below to enjoy Joe Rinaudo’s incredible

LIVE FACEBOOK STREAM

QUARANTINE CONCERT

on his Style 20 American Fotoplayer

Original Live Stream:
SUNDAY MARCH 22, 2020
6:00 PM PDT

If you’re stuck at home during the global pandemic, Joe invites you into his home for some good old-fashioned entertainment. Right in the middle of his living room stands his Model 20 American Fotoplayer (customized with extra bells and whistles—and horns and glockenspiel and earthquake and sirens and on and on) which he restored a few years out of high school. You can hear this thing for blocks! The neighbors actually enjoy the sound, as many of Joe’s Facebook and YouTube followers do, too. Here are some of the hundreds of comments that were pouring in during the live concert:

  • Hi Joe! Thank you for performing this for us tonight.
  • This is unbelievable. I have never seen anything like this. I love it.
  • I never knew I could 23 skidoo til I heard this snazzy tune!
  • Thanks for the performances and history lesson!
  • Smiling from ear to ear! Thank you Joe!
  • How do you find or make parts for this?
  • MORE COWBELL!!!!
  • do you ever get complaints from your neighbors lol
  • Amazing Joe! Simply amazing!
  • Joe, where’s your virtual tip jar? 😊
  • Thank you so so so much! This was so needed and wonderful! We sat huddled around the lap top as if it were an old style radio, as we leaned in as close so as to soak up every moment. !
  • Thanks Joe! That was so much fun to watch!
  • 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
  • He just makes my heart happy
  • 💞

If you’ve never seen or heard a Fotoplayer, you are in for a treat.

What is a Fotoplayer?

The fotoplayer (“foto” from photoplay and “player” from player piano) is a wonderful contraption that was built to provide music and sound effects for silent movies. These machines appeared around 1912 and were used in medium sized theaters. Fotoplayers were in expensive to operate because you didn’t have to be a musician to play them as they were also playable by way of player piano rolls.

The fotoplayer used a fascinating combination of piano, organ pipes, drums, and various sound effects designed to narrate the action of any silent film.

Pedals, levers, switches, buttons, and pull cords were all used to turn on the xylophone, beat a drum, ring a bell, create the sound of thunder, or chirp like a bird.

When sound films came into being in the late 1920’s, the fotoplayer became passé. Of the thousands of American fotoplayers made during their heyday, sadly less than 50 survive, and of those only 12 are known to be in playing condition. One of those 12 is in Joe’s living room.

This machine was originally built in 1926 in Van Nuys Calif. and shipped to a theater in Saskatchewan Canada. It was meticulously restored by Joe Rinaudo in 1976…after being shipped back to California.

More About the Fotoplayer

Visit this page to learn more about the Fotoplayer and see close-up photos, right here on SilentCinemaSociety.org


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A FEW MORE COMMENTS…

  • He’s so cute, thanks for doing this Joe!
  • I’m a filmmaker that is so disappointed they never taught us about these amazing instruments in our film 101 classes. we learned about silent film but they never taught us much about the live music played during the shows
  • My grandmother played one of these in Tulsa Ok, during the silent movie era. I have never actually seen one live. So cool!
  • Would love to get a move tracked with this cool machine!
  • Love the suspenders!
  • Omg I love his positivity
  • Fantastic, thanks for the closeup of the rolls. Fascinating how they encoded the musical data in hole punches. So thoughtful of you to do this for us, buddy😃👍
  • Wish it wasn’t 2:30 AM over here right now. Could watch this for hours. Thanks and good night.
  • Joe does hand-crank films at Two-Strike Park the last Saturday in July for the Historical Society of the Crescenta Valley. He doesn’t bring this, though. The sound is excellent. The bass is real deep!
  • I just love you so much Joe!!
  • thanks so much for this concert, this is so fun to learn about and watch. so grateful theres people out there like joe doing this!
  • This is so amazing!!!!
  • Why does he twist his left hand when pulling on those chains on the left?
  • 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
  • What a fantastic format – Q&A between songs. This show is SO WELL DONE. Kudos to Gary and Nina!
  • Joe your passion for this so palpable, thank you for sharing this with us youngins who may never have found it otherwise.
  • Thank you! This is a treasure. Amazing talent and instrument.
  • He’s a treasure
  • What a spectacular wonderful way to bring joy and love to the world in such craziness. Joe, you’re generosity and kindness is amazing This is unbelievable. I have never seen anything like this. I love it.
  • Hi Joe! Thank you for performing this for us tonight. 
  • I never knew I could 23 skidoo til I heard this snazzy tune!
  • Thanks for the performances and history lesson!
  • Smiling from ear to ear! Thank you Joe!
  • My grandmother played one of these in Tulsa Ok, during the silent movie era. I have never actually seen one live. So cool!
  • He’s so cute, thanks for doing this Joe!
  • I’m a filmmaker that is so disappointed they never taught us about these amazing instruments in our film 101 classes. we learned about silent film but they never taught us much about the live music played during the shows
  • Would love to get a move tracked with this cool machine!
  • Love the suspenders!
  • Omg I love his positivity
  • Fantastic, thanks for the closeup of the rolls. Fascinating how they encoded the musical data in hole punches.
  • How do you find or make parts for this?
  • MORE COWBELL!!!!
  • thanks so much for this concert, this is so fun to learn about and watch. so grateful theres people out there like joe doing this!
  • This is so amazing!!!!
  • The sound is excellent. The bass is real deep!
  • I just love you so much Joe!!
  • So thoughtful of you to do this for us, buddy😃👍
  • Wish it wasn’t 2:30 AM over here right now. Could watch this for hours. Thanks and good night.
  • any carpenters on here? 😁😁
  • Joe does hand-crank films at Two-Strike Park the last Saturday in July for the Historical Society of the Crescenta Valley. He doesn’t bring this, though.
  • This is fantastic Joe! Thanks for doing the livestream.
  • Why does he twist his left hand when pulling on those chains on the left?
  • do you ever get worried you’ll pull too hard and bust it???
  • PhotoPlayer is so much more fun than Photoshop when in quarantine…and you get more of a workout!! Thank you, Joe!
  • do you ever get complaints from your neighbors lol
  • So much knowledge being shared
  • Joe, where’s your virtual tip jar? 😊
  • What a fantastic format – Q&A between songs. This show is SO WELL DONE. Kudos to Gary and Nina!
  • Joe your passion for this so palpable, thank you for sharing this with us youngins who may never have found it otherwise.
  • This just keeps getting better!
  • Do you have any modern songs cut?
  • Thank you! This is a treasure. Amazing talent and instrument.
  • this is so wholesome thank you
  • Joe needs his own PBS show I would totally watch!
  • So excited to see this!! That original video of Joe playing the fotoplayer is one of my favourites <3
  • All the more reason to get this documented. No one has more charm or passion for this than Joe, a phenominal font of fun and knowledge
  • Thanks to the camera and audio crew also! And everyone who organized it and got the word out. Made my day.
  • Honor our first responders who have to still go to work. Play To the Rescue!
  • Good job Joe…great performance and talk.
  • Thank you so much, Joe
  • What a spectacular wonderful way to bring joy and love to the world in such craziness. Joe, you’re generosity and kindness is amazing
  • Thanks a lot for this live Joe, this was so wholesome and interesting ♥
  • this is keeping me sane I do not want it to end
  • This has been amazing and would love it if there was another one again, since we’re going to be hunkered down for weeks and weeks.
    We’re workin’ on it. Glad you had fun.

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